"Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo" (thetomselleck) 01/23/2018 at 13:52 • Filed to: Carpet should cover that riiiight up, Houses

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Nibby > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 13:54

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did ford build those stairs?

shop-teacher > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 13:54

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What the shit people!?!?!?!

Every carpenter on this job should be hit in the head with a shovel.

RT > Nibby 01/23/2018 at 14:00

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Might’ve been British Leyland.

LOREM IPSUM > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:01

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Hahaha, painters had the new guy cutting in. Lmfao

BigBlock440 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:01

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They just look like temporary stairs, with the use of OSB. Unless that’s just how a million dollar house is built.

random001 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:02

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Looks like you stood there and pissed down the stairs for spite....

Highlander-Datsuns are Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:02

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Error 404: Carpenter not found

cmill189 - sans Volvo > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:03

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That’s a feature. The cupboard under the stairs needs adequate ventilation for the health and safety of young wizards. Stairs such as those on Privet Drive would not pass code.

Smallbear wants a modern Syclone, local Maple Leafs spammer > Nibby 01/23/2018 at 14:04

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Yes.

Ash78, voting early and often > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:08

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Great Stuff to the rescue!

Or a caulk strip. I’m pretty sure I could fit my caulk in there.

Stapleface > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:08

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They’re just making it easier for the carpet guys to hide the seams.

Seriously though, do builders know how to read a tape measure in your neck of the woods?

user314 > Nibby 01/23/2018 at 14:10

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Nah, that looks like a Tesla gap.

vondon302 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:10

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Apparently rookie carpenters might be worse than rookie mechanics.

gmctavish needs more space > BigBlock440 01/23/2018 at 14:11

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I’m willing to bet that’s how a million dollar house is built.

There’s a crew building a fourplex next door, and while none of the work looks dangerously bad, it certainly looks lazy.

LOREM IPSUM > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:12

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This is classic modern construction.

The subfloor obviously isn’t finished, but whomever is in charge called the drywallers, molding installers, and painters in without bothering to notice the gaping hole in the floor.

All of these subtrades came in, saw the hole in the floor, and kept right on working. They did this because had they left that piece of baseboard off, the hole in the floor would be magically repaired and the baseboard guys boss would have gotten an angry phone call about a missed piece of baseboard. The installers would then have to go back on their own time and dime to finish the job. Instead, they just said “fuck em. Shoulda called us when you were actually ready.” and soldiered on.

That paint though. Lmfao. Wow.

AestheticsInMotion > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:12

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This is not a good day for staircases in the PNW

Rust and Dust - Oppositelock Forever > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:13

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“Honey, have you seen our toddler recently? He was headed down the stairs for breakfast this morning, and I’ve not seen him since!”

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/23/2018 at 14:16

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That’s Error 4-1/4

BKosher84 > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:16

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At least they were consistent.

shop-teacher > vondon302 01/23/2018 at 14:36

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Dude, I’ve seen some stuff ...

vicali > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 14:39

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CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > gmctavish needs more space 01/23/2018 at 14:41

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I do some new home warranty claims around Vancouver.. some of the stuff... yikes.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > LOREM IPSUM 01/23/2018 at 14:43

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I do some new home warranty claims around Vancouver.. some of the stuff... yikes.

LOREM IPSUM > BigBlock440 01/23/2018 at 14:47

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Not temporary, it’s the subfloor. That’s how houses are built these days. (At most they might pour some self leveling thinset over top of the osb but that is somewhat rare in a home, and almost never done on stairs)

They’ll come in toward the end and slide a nice piece of hardwood into that gap as a moulding, then lay some nice maple or something over top of the steps and blammo, multi-million dollar home.

That landing however is another issue entirely.

LOREM IPSUM > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/23/2018 at 14:59

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I can’t tell you how common it is for me to arrive on a job to find bathtubs, jacuzzis, showers, furnaces, etc, mounted to exterior walls with no insulation or vapour barrier behind them. We would happily come in and prep these areas beforehand, but everyone is in such a hurry to get things done so they can get financing for their next project, no one notices until we get there. Then it’s somehow my fault that these now completely inaccessible areas are unable to be insulated... And if you think for a second that anyone will ever pull a tub, shower, furnace, jacuzzi, bulkhead, stud, etc so the job can be done correctly you’d be so very wrong. Yet somehow these jobs pass insulation inspection, final inspection. Not just a house here and there either, talking a huge number of them, and apartment building and condo building after condo building.

A few of the better builders are on top of their shit, but many many of them aren’t. Cash and complacently rule the day, I guess.

CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever > LOREM IPSUM 01/23/2018 at 15:02

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It is really sad. It makes me increasingly distrust trades people (professionally, not personally) and their workmanship, which is a shame because I think/hope it is a minority.

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > Dr. Zoidberg - RIP Oppo 01/23/2018 at 15:33

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Did someone get murdered there?

Shamoononon drives like a farmer > random001 01/23/2018 at 15:34

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I thought it looked a little red.

user314 > Highlander-Datsuns are Forever 01/23/2018 at 17:20

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LOREM IPSUM > CarsofFortLangley - Oppo Forever 01/23/2018 at 18:12

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It’s a systemic issue and honestly starts at the top and trickles down. Builders pay more attention to the planned schedule than they do to the actual work being produced. They want it done, and they want it done yesterday. The problem often occurs when they don’t properly compare the actual state of completion of their project to what’s listed on the white board in their trailer, and just blindly call in the next round of subtrades.

Almost all of these guys work piece rate. After a few weeks or months of showing up to job after job that’s not really ready to go, trying to help resolve these kinds of issues, and ultimately having to go back to the same place for the same task (for not only no additional money but at a loss of time, fuel, potential other income, etc) you start to keep your mouth shut and just do what you can. You eventually start to get the idea that if the (much richer than you) onsite management in charge of coordinating everything can’t be bothered to address this type of stuff time after time, even after it’s continually brought to their attention, why should you do it for them? Not my job, after all.

That said, one of my biggest onsite beefs are the tradespeople who neglect to do simple things they should be doing that seems like no big deal to them, but ultimately causes me a bunch of extra effort to overcome when they neglect to do it. That stuff I can’t ignore even if I wanted to because someone will come along and say “welll, just do such and such” not realizing or caring that it takes me many magnitudes longer to accomplish the task (at a net loss financially) than it otherwise would have had (insert other trade here) done their job properly. It happens constantly, and unfortunately I just have to grin and bear it.

Nature of the beast, I guess.

Deal Killer - Powered by Focus > LOREM IPSUM 01/23/2018 at 22:56

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And that’s why I will never buy a tract built house. They throw them up so fast now, there is no way they have any quality behind them. I have yet to understand people’s interest in buying such homes, but the market is there, so I can only do what I can do.

Eric @ opposite-lock.com > Deal Killer - Powered by Focus 01/24/2018 at 00:43

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It’s because they are all many of us can afford... I wish I had the time/money/skills to build a custom home from scratch, but the costs are astronomical.

Still, even though mine was done quite well because it was the model, it has a lot of shoddy work I feel like I’m constantly fixing.